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Fishwicks bus closure
13-Dec-2018, 12:09 AM
Post: #41
RE: Fishwicks bus closure
You folks in Leyland are lucky to have such good bus services. Here in Anacortes we have just one hourly service that goes from our neighborhood via the ferry terminal, though Anacortes town center and out to a transfer station about 6 miles out east of town. There's a connecting service from there into Mount Vernon, our closest city, which is on Interstate 5, the main freeway between San Diego and the Canadian border. There are pretty good services from Mount Vernon to other towns in the county, plus express rush-hour services to Everett (55 miles away) and Bellingham (about 45 miles). I was driving for the transit company when those expresses started up. I was a relief driver, taking over other's routes if they were off work for some reason. My nightmare was having a relief job one day that ended at 22:00 and having the morning express to Everett the next day. It started at 04:30 - a short night's sleep for an old guy!

The good thing is that for us old folks, the fare is 50 cents to ride all day with transfers ($2.00 on the expresses). Needless to say, it's a Government agency (Skagit County) that runs it.


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15-Dec-2018, 12:22 PM (This post was last modified: 15-Dec-2018 12:27 PM by Bill.)
Post: #42
RE: Fishwicks bus closure
(13-Dec-2018 12:09 AM)anacortesdamp Wrote:  You folks in Leyland are lucky to have such good bus services. Here in Anacortes we have just one hourly service that goes from our neighborhood via the ferry terminal, though Anacortes town center and out to a transfer station about 6 miles out east of town. There's a connecting service from there into Mount Vernon, our closest city, which is on Interstate 5, the main freeway between San Diego and the Canadian border. There are pretty good services from Mount Vernon to other towns in the county, plus express rush-hour services to Everett (55 miles away) and Bellingham (about 45 miles). I was driving for the transit company when those expresses started up. I was a relief driver, taking over other's routes if they were off work for some reason. My nightmare was having a relief job one day that ended at 22:00 and having the morning express to Everett the next day. It started at 04:30 - a short night's sleep for an old guy!

The good thing is that for us old folks, the fare is 50 cents to ride all day with transfers ($2.00 on the expresses). Needless to say, it's a Government agency (Skagit County) that runs it.


Frank D.

Not all of Leyland has a good, or even adequate bus service. The stretch of Leyland Lane between Seven Stars has only the reprieved 113, an hourly service that ceases around 7pm and doesn't run at all on Sundays. It takes such a circuitous route to Preston, through Bamber Bridge, Hoghton and Higher Walton that it can take almost an hour to get there from the Broadfield Arms. The journey from Wigan to Preston must take almost 2 hours. As for getting to Chorley, for hospital appointments and the like, residents in the west of Leyland have to catch 2 buses, either walking to Seven Stars for the 111 to Tesco or catching the aforementioned 113, which as stated, is only an hourly service.

This deterioration in the level of service has of course followed the demise of Fishwicks. Stagecoach are interested only in profitable routes but there should be an obligation on private companies to 'take the rough with the smooth', i.e.accept that some routes will run at a loss, whilst others make a healthy profit, just as Royal Mail have an obligation to deliver mail to outlying rural areas, the losses being more than offset by profitable delivery routes.

On the plus side, thanks to Gordon Brown (God Bless him), us older citizens receive free bus travel for most of each weekday and all weekend, though how long that will continue is another matter...
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15-Dec-2018, 05:04 PM
Post: #43
RE: Fishwicks bus closure
Bill:

I appreciate that not all of Leyland and surrounding areas have good bus service. I was spoiled while growing up as we lived in a house across from the parish church that became the doctor's surgery after my folks sold it (number 7 Church Road) and were within a short distance from the Cross and the War Memorial. The 109, 111, 113, 298 services were all just a few steps away. Even the 112 Coppull route wasn't far away. It came to Church Road via Balcarres Road, then headed east towards Wigan Road.

After we emigrated to the US, I remember from some home visits that Fishwicks had a number of smaller Mercedes buses that did routes through Wade Hall and Broadfield estates and other areas without the main-line services. They met up with the main services at Earnshaw Bridge, Seven Stars, the Cross and the Gasworks I assume they disappeared with Fishwick's demise.

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15-Dec-2018, 09:34 PM
Post: #44
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You would think that the layout of Leyland could lend its self to a figger of eight bus service, reaching the main shopping areas and train station.Who would be responsable for new bus stops and licenses for any new routes? may be the cost could put people off. We here in Wigan have just opened a new bus station similar in design to the one at Chorley, this has been payed for by Gr Manchester transport authority. Bus stops and shelters in Wigan are also maintaned by them. Also the Gr Manchester bus pass allowed me to travel to Manchester Airport and back on the train after 9-30am, it saves one a great deal of money.

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16-Dec-2018, 08:00 PM
Post: #45
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Wigan and Greater Manchester are labour strongholds Frank. They seem to have more idea of what we plebs need. Lancashire County Council seems constantly in a civil war. Probably too busy fire fighting... they've reopened libraries thlseat were closed probably a political move but what else.. Using a bus pass on the train brilliant. The tories even wanted to stop our heating allo wance and was only stopped by the DUP making a condition of its support, keeping the allowance. I don't normally make political comments sitting on the fence as I do but that's how it seems to me.
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17-Dec-2018, 01:20 AM
Post: #46
RE: Fishwicks bus closure
(15-Dec-2018 05:04 PM)anacortesdamp Wrote:  Bill:

I appreciate that not all of Leyland and surrounding areas have good bus service. I was spoiled while growing up as we lived in a house across from the parish church that became the doctor's surgery after my folks sold it (number 7 Church Road) and were within a short distance from the Cross and the War Memorial. The 109, 111, 113, 298 services were all just a few steps away. Even the 112 Coppull route wasn't far away. It came to Church Road via Balcarres Road, then headed east towards Wigan Road.

After we emigrated to the US, I remember from some home visits that Fishwicks had a number of smaller Mercedes buses that did routes through Wade Hall and Broadfield estates and other areas without the main-line services. They met up with the main services at Earnshaw Bridge, Seven Stars, the Cross and the Gasworks I assume they disappeared with Fishwick's demise.

Frank Damp

Yes Frank, I thought the 'Fishkwick' (sp? ) buses were an excellent idea but they disappeared quite a few years before Fishwicks' demise, presumably as they were unprofitable.
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17-Dec-2018, 04:37 PM
Post: #47
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Noel, The Tories A.K.A. I.D.S. stopped our winter allowance saying because we live in the Med there are no winters bad enough to have it, I have even sent him pictures of the snow on our gardens, we have 5 months of winter weather, but did not have a reply, not very courteous of him, so I am in full agreement of your views...

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18-Dec-2018, 07:35 PM
Post: #48
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That seems extremely harsh Dave but what else do you expect from them. I could understand why it was stopped for ex pats in the canaries, we had a short stay in February a few years ago and the English couple next door who lived in tenerife all year and they said they used the heating allowance to help pay with their aircon. The tories had already lopped £50 off our allowance and in 2 years time the free TV for over 75s will end if they have their way. Let's hope the blue rinse brigade let them know their feelings at the ballot box.
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18-Dec-2018, 11:22 PM
Post: #49
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Since we became ex-pats in 1968, all we get from the UK is a proportionate old age pension each, based on how long we paid into the pension system during the time we were employed as residents. I joined the adult workforce in May (?) 1958, when I started my EE/BAC apprenticeship. Eileen was about 3 years behind me starting her job as a dental assistant. We emigrated July 2nd 1968. Between the two of us the pension comes to about $400 a month. We've never received a "winter allowance" even though the climate here is nearly identical to coastal south Devon/Cornwall.

About the only "perk" we get (and it's nothing to do with the UK) stems from the fact that our local bus service is run by the county government. The "general" fare for adults is $1.00 on local routes and $2.00 for the inter-city expresses. For OAPs it's half that. For an express ride to work/college service that runs from Mount Vernon to Everett 3 times in the early morning and 3 times again in late afternoon, the adult fare is $2.00 for about 40 miles each way. When you buy any ticket, its good for the rest of the buses' working day on any route. We get one bus though our neighborhood every hour from 06:45 to about 19:00. I use it from time to time when I need to go somewhere in town and Eileen's using the car.

We do get US Social Security every month (about $2400 between us) and I get a Boeing pension which just about covers the home mortgage, which will be paid off by the time I'll be 97, if I'm still around!

Still, I don't regret emigrating. We've had a very fulfilling life here, including 4 children (and 3 spouses), 5 grand-children and one (so far) great grand-child. I could have done without the lay-off from Boeing and moving to Virginia and then back to Washington and Boeing. I put 28 years in with Boeing altogether, taking early retirement just before turning 58. 19 years retired so far!


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21-Dec-2018, 08:23 PM
Post: #50
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When you turn 65 here you get a bus pass which allows travel after 9.30 am and before 11pm I think free of charge in Lancashire and Cumbria though so far I've only used mine on the park and ride into Preston. It saves us having to pay the extortionate parking charges or risking an £80 fine for entering the bus lane. Our state pension we are told is one of the poorest in Europe. I think the basic couple's pension is around £190 a week. My private company pension was absorbed in to the PPF as they said there weren't sufficient funds to cover all the pension pay outs. The PPF was set up following the Maxwell saga when he apparently jumped off his boat having messed up the Daily Mirror pension fund.
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